Originally by: Vitrael

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Edited by: Vitrael on 07/11/2007 17:42:41

Originally by: Mamba Lev

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Edited by: Mamba Lev on 07/11/2007 17:10:11
No that would create a situation when running a mission your immune to PvPers. Are you thick?

Oh and pirates don't get an opinion on this. Nice easy griefing for them though it is...

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Congratulations on responding in your alt post thread and revealing your main. CVA pigdog.

So basically you want great reward with no risk? I think you wanted this.

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Originally by: Jorana Rowan

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Edited by: Jorana Rowan on 08/11/2007 13:59:39
Edited by: Jorana Rowan on 08/11/2007 13:55:05

Is it possible to be probed down even when there are deadspace gates to go through? I had someone come in and start salvaging, in high sec, but that was at warp straight to the mission area.

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Originally by: Christari Zuborov

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When you log in, you are consenting to PVP, does that make it simple enough for you?

I understand your feelings about having zero risk all reward areas for you to get phat l00ts all day, but understand first that every player before you had it this way, and we're not interested in helping to make it easier for you when we took the hard road of learning to deal with it.

We got shot, we got ransomed, we got podded with no mercy. So what makes you more special than us princess?

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Originally by: Caol

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There is a 60-70% proof way to avoid being ganked in mission belts - use your scanner. Always have your scanner up, set it to 360 deg and hit scan every time you kill an npc or something. If you see a buzzard, cheetah, anathema or helios on scan then chances are someone has probes out (ofc, you may not catch the covert on scan whilst its launching its probes) - though who knows, pirates may use no covert ships to scan in the future. If you suddenly see a few hacs pop up on scan, align to a station and reduce your scan range to check.

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Originally by: Tegashi

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Edited by: Tegashi on 08/11/2007 20:14:00

Originally by: Karlemgne

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Originally by: Tegashi

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Killing mission runners is a pretty low and dirty practice. In many cases, the odds are so stacked against the mission runner that they don't have a chance. This doesn't qualify as 'PvP' in my view, only griefing since it's such a one-sided engagement.

The WoW comment makes me chuckle. The same 'PvP' douchebag mentality strongly exists there too.

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PvPers = Douchebag.

Amazing logic there, bud. I guess you think that EVE should institute a pvp flag or a dueling system restricting pvp to only those who "want" to PVP.

Because uneven fights are "griefing." Indeed, we won't let alliances that are bigger than other organizations (be they other alliances or corps) war dec smaller entities. Also, we should restrict gate camps. You shouldn't be allowed to camp a gate unless you are alone.

And if a giant 50 person anti-pie blob comes to try and kill me camping a gate by myself, they shouldn't be allowed to engage.

Great idea where do I sign up for the suckiest MMO ever made. You know, the one you want to turn eve into?

-Karl

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No. Not all PvP'ers are doucehbags. Don't try to twist my words because you know full well that is not what I meant. Not at all.

PvP'er and Ganker share the same title but they are not one and the same. Personally, I prefer choosing targets that are difficult, can destroy me, and I can learn from the experience. I love the idea of defending corporation space from invaders or those wishing to take what my alliance has built. To me, this is PvP.

What qualifies as douchebaggery in my opinion is the idea of running down mission runners because you know they most likely did not or could not fit their ship to properly deal with the gank. Those that suicide gank, or gamp gates just to shoot easy targets. THose that bait newbs with cans outside of stations, flip the ore of miners, or all the other underhanded things people try to do to coax an easy barge or frig kill. This is the kind of thing I speak of.

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